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Yesterday was a very exciting day for bloggers of all stripes. HUGE things are afoot for every one of us, and most of you probably missed the news.
The global commenting system IntenseDebate was acquired by Automattic, the company that owns Wordpress.com and drives the Wordpress.org project. T ... Continue reading »
The global commenting system IntenseDebate was acquired by Automattic, the company that owns Wordpress.com and drives the Wordpress.org project. T ... Continue reading »
9 months ago
It does seem that just as soon as I get a functional workflow going for my social web participation, something changes and I have to rethink everything. But as long as the changes are heading in the right direction, it's worth it.
9 months ago
It'll be interesting to see what this does for Disqus, SezWho, co.comment, etc. Will they suffer as IntenseDebate picks up? Or will this somehow launch an industry.
Oh how I dream that the systems would all play nicely together. Probably but a dream....
9 months ago
Then again, I probably just need to poke around more on Disqus. It's probably a PEBCAK error.
I could easily see a similar situation between Disqus, Co.Comment, IntenseDebate et. al. as has happened in lifestreaming/microblogging platforms this year--hot debate for a while till a clear leader emerges.
9 months ago
9 months ago
I heard about this news as well, but I don't know much about IntenseDebate. In your post above you reference an earlier post about the benefits of Disqus (it's one of the reasons I've been thinking of switching comments on my own WordPress blog to Disqus), but you don't go into any detail about IntenseDebate. Could you tell us more? How would you compare Disqus to IntenseDebate? Does IntenseDebate offer everything Disqus does, and more? Why is this such a big move?
I'm not skeptical, just ignorant, Jake. Hoping you can add some more detail!
9 months ago
- rich
9 months ago
This adds a few nice tools (and is worth Automattic's purchase), but the basic system is still broken. I won't go into it here, but suffice to say that Intense Debate's three main features (threaded replies, import/export, and reply-by-email) hardly solve the real and substantive issues with the entire commenting system. Disqus is no better (and both are arguably worse as "closed" systems).
In fact, I don't believe any new external system needs to be created, but that new features must be implemented in all the major blog platforms. Intense Debate's "reply-by-email" feature may be of some benefit, but it sounds like an atrocious way to move more noise into your email box when most of us are trying to push it out.
I have my own proposal, but the more I began to think about it since last year, the more I've thought I should just make my own plugin for W/P rather than explain it, so that there would be a working model. I wouldn't be surprised to see it as one of the highest used plugins after a few short months and later integrated right into W/P.
Chief problems with comments as they are now (and who's solving these?):
Anonymous comments (and I mean no proof that Lawrence Salberg here is really Lawrence Salberg of Melbourne, FL -- I could have easily posted this comment as Seth Godin and on some blogs gotten away with it, especially if I tried to sound like Seth).
Irrelevant Comments (currently only fixed by manual moderation - and not very well on most blogs (ahem! TechCrunch!)
No quick summary of all comments (clarifications, for/against, add'l info left out of story, raging side debate but somewhat still relevant, etc). So you see a story with 100 comments and you have to READ the 100 comments - all of them - to get the gist of whether people think the original post is good, bad, or ugly.
No separate list of resources. Typically, when you find a good post on "The Top 7 Widgets for Gadget X", you have to scroll through 150 other comments to find links that the original author forgot or overlooked. Typically, you find multiple people crying out in anguish over the same forgotten product ("Hey, what about Imeem???!!!???") so that only adds to the noise that further decreases the chance that the one special gem will get drowned out even further. Why not have all links submitted by commenters automatically listed at the top in a "Other Resources Suggested by our Readers" in alphabetical order, etc.
Okay, so I gave away a few hints on part of my solution, but with the economy tanking, maybe it will help to make someone rich. Or at least busy toying around in PHP.
9 months ago
1. The "master" profile of the person leaving the comment is attached to their comment. (I'm always logged in as "jakemckee" across multiple sites)
2. Every comment I leave across these millions of blogs is now captured and (potentially) easily referenceable.
This is why I'm saying that we're watching a massive shift take place. Functionality is a secondary point to this primary (and exciting) point.
9 months ago
http://www.blogtogreat.com/2008/09/blog-comment...
9 months ago
This is great news. Bloggers are always looking for ways to make their comments area more valuable for readers. Hopefully, this will get us there.
John